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- Expressive power of natural languages to deal with expressive power as differences are found among the natural languages. Issues to deal with include differences in vocabularies, the phenomenon of cultural, implied, or idiomatic meaning in expressions, logical structures and inflections. In the concept of directly comparing a statement in one language with one in another, it would appear to be necessary to illustrate the point through examples in different formats, including meaningful translation, direct transliteration, and parenthetical tags indicating hidden grammatical and semantic units. The purpose if this article would be to show how different languages form expressions and how certain types of expressions are more... expressive in certain languages. In particular I'm thinking about languages with smaller vocabularies, distinct, particular, or unregulated schemes for word assimilation, etc, and how they contrast with languages with larger vocabularies, systematic word foundations (Greek, Latin, etc) and so forth. What statements can be formulated in certain languages that can't be formulated in others, either because they lack the concept, or because the term has properties which don't translate well (meta-conceptual terms, etc)?-Stevertigo 22:47, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
Do-supportPositive anymore- Well-formedness - this currently redirects to Gradient well-formedness, but the more general topic should have its own article. MuffledThud (talk) 11:33, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
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The article on Coverbs actually describes "converbs" and a coverb is another phenomenon altogether. I'd like this article moved to converb (which currently redirects to coverb) so that an article on coverbs can be started. Jangari 11:16, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Coverbs and converbs are two different things, but it looks like this was already resolved: Talk:Converb#Wrong_Phenomenon —Umofomia (talk) 11:32, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
This article is heavily tagged in need of attention since March 2008 and from a quick read certainly needs it, I'm not expert on the subject but I think it's fairly wrong.86.9.126.174 (talk) 23:36, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
This article is a confusing mess, specifically its very difficult to see how the topic is different from the subject of a sentence. Clearer examples, rules, etc as well as a short bit on the separation between topic and subject would be helpful.--Crossmr (talk) 15:32, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
I wouldn't mind a hand in getting this article more complete, it didn't even discuss conversational styles before. Irbisgreif (talk) 10:08, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
Please review this article and improve where necessary. --Zaheen (talk) 22:38, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
User:Athenean has alredy blanked three times (see [1], [2] and [3] 72 valid references of scholars from Gottfried Leibnitz to Shaban Demiraj to minimize the origin of the Albanian Language from Illyrian. sulmues (talk) --Sulmues 18:31, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
- Comment: Actually, Sulmues wants this incredible number of sources to highlight the (disputed) Illyrian-Albanian connection as much as possible, while conveniently ignoring any alternate theories (Thracian, Dacian). Athenean (talk) 19:00, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
- I don't know anything about the speculative origins of Albanian, but 72 references does seem like too many. Sulmues, could you pare it down to maybe 5 essential, authoritative sources? Perhaps someone has already written a survey of this literature that you could simply cite? Indeterminate (talk) 07:48, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
- Could we merge these? Either at SC plus a single grammar article, or if that is too contentious, all together as an "X grammar" article? I dread the edit wars it would spark if I tried this on my own. Of course, coming up with that "X" without mortally offending s.o. may be a problem. kwami (talk) 11:09, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
- I think you've got it exactly right: in terms of grammar, there is no real reason to treat these separately, but in terms of politics it will be incredibly controversial to decide what to call that grammar. Omniglot uses "Serbian, Croatian and Bosnian"; both R. Katičić (1997) and R. Alexander (2006) use "Bosnian, Croatian, Serbian". Katičić, by the way, seems to suggest that this is not a proper solution (the title was chosen by his editor), as the distinctive dialects don't necessarily correspond to the national boundaries. Maybe we could undertake a broader scan of the literature - say, a survey of grammars published since 1992 - and try to determine if there is any consensus among linguists on what to call this/these language(s). Cnilep (talk) 15:46, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
- Turns out we have a nicely developed Serbo-Croatian grammar that was an orphan, so it will be easier than I thought. Naming is a separate issue; we can debate on what to call it, and change our minds, independently of the merge.
- As for the dialects, all four official standards are based on East Hercegovinian. The current SC grammar article restricts itself to that. We have several separate dialects articles already, and IMO they're probably good as they are.
- Montenegrin will be a bit tricky, as currently we have almost nothing. It has a couple extra letters which AFAIK are not phonemic and not widely used, though there are editors who insist they're both.
- From comments on the talk pages, looks like there are half a dozen editors who are supportive. No-one opposed as of yet, though I suppose that's only a matter of time. kwami (talk) 18:07, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
- Color alphabet. The creator of the article is not happy with how I gutted it, but much of it was irrelevant (not about alphabets) or was an essay / how-to guide. There's also a potential COI, since he's using his own work to illustrate. Merged Kromofons, which seems to have been an advert for a non-notable product. Put up for AfD Edo script, which was the main illustration; it seemed to be a hoax, though it would be cool if it were real. kwami (talk) 19:30, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
- Cantonese (Yue) ~ Yue Chinese. A move request was closed by Angr after reviewing months of debate. (Angr was one of only two uninvolved admins at WP Languages.) The decision is preserved here, and Angr defended it as well on his talk page (March archive). The opposing side went ballistic, and RegentsPark just reverted on procedural grounds, though admitting to not reading the archives thoroughly. We're all really really tired with this; I hate to ask anyone to trawl through the archives, as there are reams of debate going back years, but it's hard to motivate reasoned debate against the nationalist/walled-garden crowd (as in, only Cantonese should get to decide what their language is called in English) when they throw a fit every time someone does. How to proceed? kwami (talk) 20:08, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
- Hi, please participate in verification of information added into Ukrainian language#Classification and relationship to other languages, see Talk:Ukrainian language#Classification and relationship - verify sources --windyhead (talk) 12:52, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
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